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donc: well said.
patrickhulst: nor do I. And I use and support AD, Exchange, XP Pro, Vista, etc myself. I just don't rely on MS for more than I have to, and in this case, would not recommend Groove. I certainly don't use products like ISA server, though. No way, no how.
And actually, you don't need to purchase anything extra with the Untangle VPN option. You don't need extra hardware (as in a security device) you don't need an extra hard drive if you have enough free space. Hopefully, kyra has either XP Professional or Vista Business, because then you can set rights with NTFS/Share Permissions and control access to the files.
Chris Shipley Nutmeg Consulting
Chris, have you tried the VPN feature on Untangle? We haven't had the need since we have an SSL portal in place. I installed the remote control feature briefly, it is pretty much a glorified VNC connection.
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You must not know the history of Groove. The software was designed by Ray Ozzie of Lotus fame, and only later was acquired by Microsoft. It uses military-grade encryption, and is so secure that the FBI use it for sharing information with agents in the field. I share your concerns about the security of Microsoft products, but Groove really is a fantastic tool. So much more convenient than using the Web, and because it uses sub-file replication technology (copying only the changed portions of files) it is faster than VPN. For a small distributed organization it is really superior to setting up infrastructure that they would then have to manage, patch, support, etc.
Just have to toss in my $0.02 re: Groove.
Hope this helps,
President, Sarai LLC
Good information to have, Zac. I didn't know that. However, even with this new information, I'm still a fan of roll your own. I run my own company in the VPN fashion, and its a lot more flexible than Groove. I have access to every resource on the remote network I might need - not just sharing files.
gary: no I haven't. I use Astaro Security Gateways. However, from looking at the OpenVPN deployment screens they have, it seems pretty easy.
shipley.cI run my own company in the VPN fashion, and its a lot more flexible than Groove. I have access to every resource on the remote network I might need - not just sharing files.
Chris I just wonder if you are prioritizing your own needs and requirements over those of the original poster? IMO Groove would be an ideal solution for the scenario as first outlined - although agree it may not be best for you, giving regard to your business, currently installed infrastructure and preference for non Microsoft products.
don, I appreciate your concern, but no I don't think so. I am taking the view that paying for a hosted option in this instance isn't necessary if kyra can manage the VPN. Why pay if you don't have to? If kyra doesn't have the technical ability or time to do a VPN, then perhaps a hosted option would be okay.
I was under the impression Groove was a pay-for hosted option, as people were also talking about paying for a hosted option when mentioning Groove, but it appears to be something you can set up on your own network and not something you need to pay for beyond buying the software (after reading the MS informational page for it). I'll let off on the topic and actually test Groove on my own (I own 10 copies of it, but never used it) and see how that might work. It may change my mind about it.
So, sorry for operating under a misconception but don, zac and patrickhulst have opened my eyes to another cost-effective solution. Before I personally recommend things, I usually try them - so that's my next step.
This is a lot of information to digest. I think I will hire someone to sort out all of this. Since I will be dealing with children and housing mentor's personal information I want to make sure that everything is as secure and efficient as it can be.
Thank you for all the feedback.
kyra, that is a fantastic idea. In this way, you will have the option for someone locally to support you if the system breaks down.
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